Manage Consent, #4 - Miscellaneous Rounds Meet the Box O’ Truth, #6 - Ballistic Resistant Glass Gets Tested, #19 - The Water Box O' Truth Part 3: Rifle Rounds, #23 - ExtremeShock Ammo and the Box O' Truth, #27 - Little Guns vs. Buckshot choke tubes are just like any other choke tube you use, and the best way to determine the right choke for you is to try different choke tubes with your gun and different loads of buckshot. #14 - The Shiloh Sharps .45-70 Long Range Exp. In fact, the very best buckshot pattern I've ever seen came from a 36" full choked barrel of a Marlin Goose Gun shooting Remington's 2.75" single ought load. In my own testing with the Federal Flite Control buckshot loads, I’ve experienced the best (by far) results with a cylinder bore choke on two different shotguns. Jerald 000 Buck is a hell of a hard hitter. For most home defense, in my estimation, it’s a lot of folderol over nothing. Remington Rem choke 12 Gauge, extended bundle (Improved cylinder, modified, full) steel or lead As Clint Smith says, “Every round that goes down range has a lawyer tied to it.”. - A Serious Discussion, #144 - Product Evaluation - The James River Armory 1903-A3, #145 - Product Evaluation - The Taurus PT 738 TCP .380 Semi Auto Pistol, #146 - The S&W Model 25-2, .45 ACP Revolver, #148 - Product Evaluation - Trulock Shotgun Choke Tubes, #149 - Reloading Inexpensive Frangible Bullets, #150 - Solving a 9mm FMJ Reloading Mystery, #151 - Building an Affordable, Accurate Rifle. Your input would be helpful. Mainly for buckshot. Join … Using an 11-87 supermag, 3.5" Winchester 00 buckshot. All other chokes seem to strip the wad (to some extent) from the pellets, thus negating the high tech purpose of the wad. By the way, it was about 100 degrees down here in sunny Texas today. Aroz Post subject: re: Best choke tube for #00 buck shot. If you are looking for real dense patterns, this is the choke you want. 0 2. liverman. Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: The Dave McCracken Memorial Shotgun Forum, I've never pulled the trigger on a 3.5 inch. Mainly for buckshot. Unlike standard chokes, the extended, Boar Blaster has a series of five steps leading to the parallel section. This was with the target placed in the middle of a cut-down refrigerator box so fliers could be found too. "...would low recoil buckshot hold tighter patterns, due to lesser pressures?". Buckshot to me is good out to 40 yards. Choke Selection For Buckshot. Buckshot While there are many different sizes of buckshot I consider two sizes “00 and 000” adequate for use in deer hunting. I would like to hear from someone who has a similar shotgun and tried some different chokes. The problem it is hasnt seen as much development as 00 buck so the pattern at longer range isnt that great. Source(s): 30 years experiance Shot Shell loading . Best Choke for Slugs and Buckshot. #130 - Does Cleaning a .22 Rimfire Rifle Barrel Hurt Accuracy? I plan on doing a midday corn stalk with my Mossberg 500 this week. Shotgun choke intends to control pattern diameter at the different yards. 3" mag. #153 - How to Develop Accurate Target Loads for a Rifle. Skeet Dave McC. When using buckshot in home defense, we actually do not want a large diameter spread. was going to most likely be using #9 buck shot. I hunt deer with a full choke using buckshot, because most of the time, full choke will deliver the tightest pattern at … Didn't have a 3.5" gun and so never tried the Roman candle shells. In this article, we have put forth the three most amazing such chokes that have become quite popular in the market. $59.95: 15599.695: Browning Invector DS BuckShot Choke Tubes. Heavy loads combined with short barrels can exhibit high muzzle pressure which in turn can distort the gas seal causing the wad release shot unevenly. SouthPaw Draw GONetwork, GWF and NTWF Member. Lv 4. A .665 turkey choke, a .697 full choke .709 modified choke, and a .719 improved cylinder choke. The IC pattern was 7 inches wide and the Full was 6 inches wide. Remington BuckShot Choke Tubes. I have a 870Supermag that I was cleaning the other day; I thought "wow those are some long forcing cones". If you want to use any other rounds get a non rifles barrel threaded for a choke. Lastly, let’s try some Federal Premium, 9 pellet, 00 Buck, with the excellent Flight Control Wad. Comments NRA Shooting Illustrated Contributor. There is no "best choke" for buckshot, for a number of reasons. Joined: Aug 9, 2010 Messages: 3,445 Location: Ozark Mountains of Arkansas. Beretta Benelli Mobil 12 Gauge BuckShot Choke Tubes : Item# Const. My 18" 870 that had the forcing cone done when the choke tube was installed at Pattern Master would put 30-40% of the big pellets into a GI E type silhouette at a measured 100 yards regularly. 1.40050 Carlsons rifled choke tubes, Beretta 12 Gauge; 2. 18 pellets. very good to 50yrds. Overall, this two chokes are the best choke for black cloud hunting that’s never disappoint you. For 000 and 00 buck, we recommend the X Full. The three inch loads have about 50% more total pellets and that seems to translate into a linear 50% more pellets inside the box. First, let’s try some Wolf 00 Buckshot. The Box O' Truth, #43 - Buckshot in a Rifled Shotgun Barrel, #45 - Shotgun Chokes and Buckshot - Part Two, #46 - Shotgun Slugs, Sabots, and Smooth Bore Barrels, #47 - Laminated Bullet Proof Glass - Pistols, #48 - Laminated Bullet Proof Glass - Rifles, #51 - The Effects of a Rifle Rest on Groups, #57 - The Box O' Truth Tests Infidel Body Armor Rifle Plates, #58 - Homemade X-Ray Film Bullet Proof Vests. The IC was an 8 ½ inch pattern and the Full Choke was a 7 inch pattern. Tightest groups came with the full choke. I have a Rem 11-87 supermag and I need a choke. #62 – How Does Barrel Length on a Shotgun Affect Velocity? It is because we want every buckshot to hit the bad guy so none of them miss. I thought Full will be the best, but the more I think about it I am second guessing this. Captcurt Member. Think about it. #4 buck will pattern 100% in a 20" circle at 40 yards. Usually a turkey choke is to tight for buckshot . I shoot a standard Modified choke in my Rem 870 and last week was given some Federal Premium with the. I've found that the 00 buck patterns tighter than the 000 and the 00 Tactical (reduced recoil) loads do much better than the full-power loads. Rifled barrels on shotguns are for shooting sabot slugs. In my own testing with the Federal Flite Control buckshot loads, I’ve experienced the best (by far) results with a cylinder bore choke on two different shotguns. If you have screw in choke tubes try modified and improved cylinder tubes and see what gives you the best results. Pertinence. First off, the shooter may want his buckshot to hold a tight pattern, or to scatter widely at short range. ...like the PatternMaster and others of the type, defeat the purpose of Federal's Flite-Control wad. Other types of chokes include; You guys were dead on your suggestion about the Modified choke and buckshot. I have seen several shotguns shoot some loads very, very well with full choke. I would rather use a slug if your able to. I have a Mossberg 835 12 gauge and wanted to know what would be the best choke for shooting tight groups of buck shot. May 25, 2017 6:03 PM ET. I have a Rem 11-87 supermag and I need a choke. Senior Member . red rick, Oct 20, 2018 #11. The only choke with more constrictions than a full choke is the super-full/extra-full. © 2017 Carbon Media Group Outdoors My shotgun came with the modified choke in it. The main difference is the bigger diameter (dia. 1,025 Posts #6 • Jan 18, 2006. Their narrow nature ensures they send dense shots and make headshots. Wild Turkey Post subject: re: Best choke tube for #00 buck shot. Comp-N-Choke, which I do not have an example of but will … Maximum ranges in most home defense situations are better measured in feet than yards. You won't know until you try it in your shotgun. The cylinder choke tube works fine at 15-25 yards. Also, if you know anyone else who has the same shotgun, find out what works for them. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Nov 13, 2011 #1 . We will shoot several different buckshot loads through an Improved Cylinder Choke and then through a Full Choke, and see what happens to the size of the patterns. It has a 21 inch barrel, but most importantly, it has interchangeable chokes that will allow us to try the same buckshot loads with different choke sizes. Best Choke for Buckshot. I thought about trying a Pattern Master but hate to spend 100 bucks on a choke when I could get same results with a cheaper one. your test on 12 ga im cyl,and full choke was the answer for me.im new to buckshot,and chokes.this was the answer for me.thank you. Top . Extra Full. august. Your email address will not be published. AND, all buckshot is not the same. Heavy loads combined with short barrels can exhibit high muzzle pressure which in turn can distort the gas seal causing the wad release shot unevenly. That's my guns. Now let’s try some Remington Low recoil, 8 pellet, 00 Buck. They were a bitch to make but at 40 yes it would put 9 pellets into a 12″ circle with the rest going into a 30″ circle. This why a hunter needs to know about the best choke for slugs and buckshot that one can use to drop their targets, irrespective of the size perfectly. Medium choke usually best, buckshot is a different rule. If you are the type of hunter who likes to vary or change up your pellet sizes choose the X Full for best all around performance. So what is the best (tightest group) choke when using 00 Buckshot. The ammunition used makes more of a difference than the choke used. Think about it. The high grade ammo with IC choke placed a greater percentage of its pellets inside the 12" box than did the economy buckshot with full choke. These chokes are the most common ones, from the largest to the tightest. With a 12 gauge I usually end up using a full choke. They provide a good combination of pellet size and count. Buckshot does not respond to tighter chokes in the same way that birdshot does. They pretty much all come with a high price tag. The Box O' Truth #2, #28 - Cowboy Pistols and The Box O' Truth, #32 - Dum-Dum Bullets and the Box O'Truth, #35 - A Load of Dimes Vs. #155 - Tissue Paper Covered Flash Holes – Does It Matter? And how about the cost of Briley tubes or Browning Invector Plus? Aug 29, 2014 #6. The chokes are easy to change in this shotgun. So, we tried out with a Benelli M2 with the 28” cylinder and chokes are the official Benelli flush sturdy tube, which comes with the full package of extended chokes for the checking details are below. I've never patterned it with buck, but I might just have to. I ordered this book from him and loaded up some 12 gauge #1 buck loads. If any buckshot miss the target, they can penetrate several walls and can endanger family members or others. If you're looking for extended range out of buckshot, ammo selection is your best bet. We are responsible for every projectile that goes down range. I agree with loki the pattern master is hard to beat. The IC was a 4 inch group and the Full was a 4 1/2 inch group. 3. The exact number of best shot size for turkey hunting will only come after you have tried different loads with your favorite shotgun at distinctive ranges. Full 00bk & #4bk, This is for some problem coyotes(dog killers) where rifle wouldn't be a good choice because of homes being very close by. This choke is often used for trap shooting, waterfowl pass shooting, turkey hunting and buckshot loads. Do Not Sell My Data Moreover, They deliver a broad pattern that kills targets at short ranges. 24" pattern Looks like the deer are holding up in the corn that's still up around my place. Our best selling buck kickers are now also available in camouflage. In many posts pertaining to patterning buckshot, I've heard good things about patternmaster chokes, only a few owners were putting them down but far more people were shutting him/her up afterwards(maybe the shareholders). Our NEW Ported Buckshot choke tube is designed to give you tight patterns downrange with 00 & 000 buckshot. I couldn't find any 3.5" buckshot anywhere so a call to Mr. William … You might shot on the heart or lungs that most of the hunters do but it is not the only option for you. In many posts pertaining to patterning buckshot, I've heard good things about patternmaster chokes, only a few owners were putting them down but far more people were shutting him/her up afterwards(maybe the shareholders. Carlson’s Choke Tube Remington Buckshot Choke Tube – The Best for Remington Almost the same USA produced choke if we compare it with the parameters of the previous one. These types of chokes are very narrow and suitable for turkey hunting. 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Back in the day, I was experimenting with 3" Federal Premium 000 at 100 yards, using a Pattern Master choke tube. Go with Federal loads using the Flitecontrol wads. If you're looking for extended range out of buckshot, ammo selection is your best bet. Anybody that knows anything about deer drives knows that it’s rare for deer to come busting into a clearing and stop for the perfect shot. Buckshot New for 2016 We are introducing our new Boar Blaster™ choke tube at the 2016 SHOT Show. Our questions today is: How do chokes effect buckshot? I think the load had 16 or 18 pellets in it. DannyLandrum and DM~ like this. 12ga. #60 – Does a Long Shotgun Barrel Tighten the Pattern? The Federal Flight Control Wads worked as expected, resulting in very tight patterns. 1,471 Posts #5 • Nov 29, 2010. i ran a dial caliper on them aftermarket chokes inside diameter measure to be precise and theirs no difference in a aftermarket tube or a manufactured tube.except the sizes full mod and improved.it makes no sense when buying them … Utility Grade : Joined: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:49 pm Posts: 1 I would like to know as well! For more awesome information stay with us. If you want tight patterns, it is important to buy a few different brands and shoot them in your shotgun to find which one patterns best for you. Actually, most in-home encounters will usually be at closer distances than this. ...can ruin patterns! I would try both with several kinds of buckshot. Modified shotgun chokes split the difference. Some of the newer shotguns are over bored and have no forceing cone for better patterns and a cyl or a mod choke works best with these on larger shot. This new choke along with the redesigned Deerstroyer™ has a completely new kind of forcing cone which is different from anything we have … Probably it is not possible if the target is too far from shooter. Best Choke for buckshot on shotgun? Inside of ten yards it hits hard. Cory Glauner is a hunter, archer, bowfisher and writer. 00 Buck through full, modified, improved cylinder and cylinder bore. For smaller shot sizes like #1 and #4 buck, we recommend the XX Full. Call Remington customer service. Improved Cylinder That being said, I don't think I'd personally ever buy a golden choke with a high price tag to gamble with or I should say without personally witnessing it in the field. 67 Posts #7 • Nov 10, 2008. choke for If you must use buckshot learn the limits of it and use you head. 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Buckshot is a powerful choice for home defense, but only if you choose it with care. … Polkahero. Deer and Hog Hunting Deer and Hog Hunting With Shotguns When using shotguns for deer or hog hunting we have two choices, either buckshot or slugs. If you shoot at a paper plate at 40 yards with the #4 buck, it is shot to shreds! In an effort to determine what size buckshot and what choke are best-suited for defensive work, I once did a very elaborate series of patterning tests. coyote choke on a 11-87 12ga. I have a custom buckshot choke for my Rem SP 10ga it is tight. Some folks, including my uncle, have had really good results using a full choke and #1's and 4's. You should not use any other type of slug with super-full-chokes. If you don't get the pattern you want, buy or borrow a full choke and try that. Best #4 Buckshot patterns I have shot(Rem3", Win3", and Fed 3") has been with a Carlson's Turkey choke in my 11/87. #152 - Does Polishing Media in Flash Holes Affect Accuracy? So, where to Shoot a Deer with Buckshot? I have shot some 3" shells in it but not really tried to pattern the gun yet. At close range it is a great choice. Never had buckshot pattern that tight. you should be able to hearth a buckshot load by your Turkey choke, notwithstanding it truly is an outstanding variety of constriction on a load of buckshot. Shotgun barrels have the last few inches of the barrel sized in various diameters to allow the shotgunner to choose a choke, or restriction, which will cause the shot to spread to a desired amount. If I were to switch to a .410, I’d try the Federal Handgun, Hornady Critical Defense, Remington Ultimate Defense and Winchester 000 loads to see which one recoiled the least and patterned best in my gun. Conclusion. #131 - Product Comparison - Keltec P-3AT Vs. Ruger LCP, #133 - The S&W Model 25-5 .45 Colt Revolver, #135 - The Remington 700 XCR Tactical Long Range Rifle, #136 - An FAL Day at the Range and Some Winchester '73, #143 - What Is the Best Weapon for Home Defense? Finished in matte black, buck kicker chokes are available for most 12, 20, & 10 gauge models. Best Shotgun Chokes For Home Defense. For most home defense, in my estimation, it’s a lot of folderol over nothing. Although I have several shotguns, I'm not a "shotgun person". 00 and 000 buck pattern into 15" patterns. This load has 9 pellets, with no shot cup or buffer material. Buckshot Demands high-level skill of shooting, patience, and accuracy. What is the typical choke tube one would use to shoot buckshot? There is a handy little choke wrench that you use to unscrew the choke and screw in another one. Run on sentences are my downside, I apologize. 2. Today, we will try to find out. On the other hand, choke tube, and its constriction also play a dominant role in determining best patterns to arrive at the exact shot size. The ammunition used makes more of a difference than the choke used. ...can ruin patterns! Now, with the 18 inch cylinder bore the 00 Buckshot spread is 15.5 inches at 15 yards. It will also help you to boost buckshot hunting ideas. Even when it’s 100 degrees outside, it’s still fun to shoot stuff. SPS police special, 35 yrds, 14" target on cardboard, 80% saturation.lightbulb sellier and ballot 00 buckshot 3" mag. Deer Hunting Choke Tubes Deer Hunting With Shotguns When using shotguns for deer hunting we have two choices, either buckshot or slugs. I use an extra full buck kicker choke in my 3" gun and a custom full choke in my 3 1/2" gun , they are made for buckshot and deer . The Box O' Truth, #36 - Frozen Clothing And The Box O' Truth, #37 - The Deadly .303 British and The Box O' Truth, #40 - Deflected Bullets and the Box O' Truth, #41 - The Taurus Judge Vs. Concerning the aforementioned Boar Blaster choke tube, it’s optimized for use with 00 and 000 buckshot. Buckshot New for 2016 We are introducing our new Boar Blaster™ choke tube at the 2016 SHOT Show. Not really any appreciable difference, but both were very tight patterns, just as expected. Not only did the Low Recoil Remington shoot a very tight pattern, but the recoil was noticeably lighter on the shoulder. How about any of the XX Full offerings for Turkey? Does it need a choke? In patterning a number of 12 ga shotguns using the method above, to me the best overall shell to me is the 3" #1 buckshot load (24 pellets), with the 2 3/4" #1 buck as second. Thanks for answering that. This choke is ported to reduce recoil and muzzle jump that tend to go hand in hand with these large loads. In an effort to determine what size buckshot and what choke are best-suited for defensive work, I once did a very elaborate series of patterning tests.